I told Jerry C I'd do this awhile back, so here it is Jerry! hope you enjoy my garden like I've enjoyed yours! and the rest of you as well. photo 1 is a view from sidewalk at my front garden, under big trees and very shady..and dry. I transplanted some Hens and Chicks and sedum last year, it's doing swimmingly! bottom photo is from other side of yard still on sidewalk of path I put in 5 or 6 years ago down middle of yard, where everyone walked anyway!