17 January, 2005

I have a fan...drama

I was recently sent this email. I think Christine was trying to be slick and do the anon thing but she was still logged in. I don't know. I just thought I'd share some ugliness with y'all.

First, I think she was responding to a comment I posted to Nicole Moyer in Oct '03. This is what I said:

I rated it a 6 out of 10 (this was above average the last time I looked) "I'd call it "horse clusters- a study in asymmetry". I can respect the biased opinion of a mother, but I think a good lesson to be learned here is to roll with the critisism. It's just one person's opinion. The previous rater may hate horses and this picture evoked an emotional response. They may be tired of horse pictures. Maybe he slipped in horse poop and soiled his best Sunday suit- I can't say for sure. I do think that critisism should be constructive, but sometimes all you can muster is "more horses arses". Nicole, I think with some study of balance and angle you should do fine. Besides, Mary probably would be a fine mentor in this area- being a photographer too. Remember, when someone slings mud, catch it, dry it, and whip it back- I think that's what my mom said. Maybe she said, "duck!". Anyway, you have a nice country side there."

This message was sent by CC ([email protected]) via ArtWanted.com:

"You act as if your some big hot shot, but in al honesty and truth your art sucks. you attack a lil girl, you tell her it is for her own groth and learning but then I visit your pathetic art work on your Portfolio and I see nothing but art that shouldn't even be displayed! ????? My question to you is does it make you feel worth while to attack other more talented people since you yourself haven't a lick of creative juices flowing? Hmmmmmm. Take that Mud dry it, and sling it!

Sincerly, a person who is sick of rude people with lil good to say but plenty of harm to do!"

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12 Comments

A DAHL 17 Jan 2005

I hate when people accuse you of doing something wrong, but turn around and do the very thing they're preaching against. And so on.

sher richardson 17 Jan 2005

..ohmy..:sighs:

When someone uses that, 'your art sucks'...it makes me so sad.. cheap low shot... and a bit immature..

I'm sorry Andy you got the 'meanthang' whipped out at you... Art should be celebration and joy... too often i'm seeing and feeling a strange backstabbing with artists.

As i have said before, 'never respond to the email with 'trouble' written in them...'

Thanks for a heads up.. i try and do the same : )

A DAHL 17 Jan 2005

Sher, That "meanthang" caught me by suprise. You should have seen the Kung Foo back-flip I did to get out of it's way. Whoo-aaah!

I can deal with "I don't like your art because..." But to proclaim "your art sucks!" implies that she feels omnipotent and there's no need for further observation by anyone else.

You know I'll be the first to criticize my own shtuff.

It amazes me that a stranger wants me to feel PAIN.

I feel warm and fuzzy though.

sher richardson 17 Jan 2005

Calder, Pollock and Picasso heard those same words- i am sure : )

..i would love to see the names of those who told Calder and Pollock 'your art sucks ' : )

Newbies are newbies...they know nothin'...

..and on this site, most nefarious artists always get found out...and get the 'do'....

Juan Gomez 17 Jan 2005

Amen Sher!! happens alot..I call them fly-by nights...they eventually learn in due time...

Candace Bell 17 Jan 2005

Yikes,!!!! Now that was un called for LOL, I personally dont think there was anything wrong with your comment, honost and to the point, nothing rude or hurtfull.

But who knows why they reacted the way they did, There could be things going on in their life causing them stress and so they are short tempered. Maybe they arnt always so bitchy like this. Still though its no excuse.

Vivian Allen 17 Jan 2005

Andy, C certainly misunderstood your very helpful critique and your reasoning of the previous persons rating. I like what your mom said, too. C's response is a bit scary to me. I'm glad you are warm and fuzzy. Vivian

Michele Luccketta 17 Jan 2005

when they sling the mud---grab it put it on a potter's wheel and design a masterpiece ;) Hehehe pluck 'em if they can't take a joke ;)

You know it's us older ahem wiser ahem one's that know that constructive cristism is a great way to learn at a faster rate---we also know BS attacks when we see them..and we do.. a lot..

I would love to meet up again with the art teacher who kicked me out of a Freshman Art class saying I was just wasting his time--I had no concept of art and "never will"...

Pushaw

joan warburton 17 Jan 2005

I love how you started the post, LOL, "...fan...drama".

A DAHL 17 Jan 2005

Thanks for your comments all. Christine wrote me back and appologized. Appology accepted. She wrote:

"I am so sorry it took me so long to reply. I have been in the middle of a commission piece. What I am talking about is a lil girl shes 14 that you commented on, she had taken some fairly decent ( but good for a child photos of some mustangs in the wild.) I must appologize before I go any farther, I admit. I was wrong in lashing out in such a ungodly way. I am new here to AW and truley jumped the gun. I have since found out from another member that the rating system used to be 1-5 not the current 1-10. The reason I was so upset was that you rated the young ladys photography a 3....On todays rating system that would be very cruel to tell a child that her photography is terrible and needs to basicly start over. I again apologize for being so nasty. it was totally uncalled for. you wern't the only one that got an earful...I like an idiot emailed another artist as well, but asked them why anyone including them could hurt such a lil girl. the main reason I was so made is she never posted more to her portfolio after that. I am a mother and very protective of my children, so I guess my mean momma instinces came flooding on your lap. I am so sorry. Please for forgive me. I will be visiting your portfolio again. And I will take a less judgemental look at your work. Etremely embarrised by this whole thing, I again ask please forgive me. Sincerly, Christine"

...and life goes on. Obladi oblada!

Candace Bell 18 Jan 2005

Well its nice she emailed you back and appologized for her harsh reaction. Does she realize you made a post about her?? or did she just decide she was to harsh on her own? Just wondering.

Hopfully it will teach her to think before she reacts in the future. Since she said she did this to someone esle. I mean some people can learn from their mistakes, unfortunalty not everyone.

Still if your upset with someone there is a mature way to get your point across without simply saying "you suck"

Cassie Chamberlain 18 Jan 2005

At the end of the day, no matter what you said (which I don't think was too harsh anyway) you meant it with the best intentions, you want people to get better at art for themselves. That's all anyone can ask of you!

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