So I vote for no more new rules: it takes two to tango or tangle. Everybody has the potential to be a troublemaker if you want to throw your verbal weight around and those same people can also practice peacemaking by refraining from angry outbursts.
However, my main concern is the derogatory attacks on people based on their sex, race, religion and sexual orientation etc. I find jokes of this nature to be highly offensive whether they are directed at blond women, dumb husbands or fat broads. Innocent posts of this nature perpetuate stereotypes and foster animosity among the boards. This is how hatred and prejudice is spread and how evil groups are allowed to breed.
Personal attacks need to stop and open communication and understanding is what is needed. Just because you don't agree or agree on something here does not mean a postive discussion cannot ensue. If we all stopped to listen once in awhile we might learn something valuable from the other person. Just too many high horses around here. The minute you attack someone personally you have lost the battle. Belittling other only makes that name caller a small person.
I vote for #1 since like nudity the term troublemaker is very vague. I just want to see the rules enforced across the board to all.
I find that I've learned a lot about the character of the people involved in the forums just by reading, and that has helped me determine how I would interact with them should the occasion arise.
Thankfully, I haven't been on the receiving end of any outright rudeness, but if I was I would do the following:
1. consider the source (why give a fool the satisfaction of engaging you in an argument?)
2. decide whether or not something I said needed clarification (the written word can be easily misinterpreted)
3. remember that I made the CHOICE to participate in a FORUM in which every individual is entitled to express their own opinion (whether they do it well, or not!)
I have come to like & admire several people that I've encountered on these boards - they are all VERY different & they each express themselves rather uniquely (to say the least;). There are times when I roar with laughter & other times that I think "oops, they coulda said that better". The ones that I find tedious, I ignore... or cuss at with my hands carefully away from the keyboard! lol
I would be very disappointed to find every forum filled with agreeable, like-minded people ... seems a little "Stepfordish" to me.
#1, please... and, thanks for asking!
Whatever you decide AW, I hope you get to the bottom of this ;)
In real terms a trouble maker is someone who frequents these boards with the "SOLE" purpose of ripping on others and writing very silly abusive topics & titles and posting porn as a means of "lightening up".
All this is washed down of course with the proverbial "Christianity bashing and mentioning of Thin skinned whinny bleaters".
GROW UP.
Trouble, is when "young" people rip heavily into the older folk without reason. Come on ! 70year olds have been a target for a while now.
In my own opinion everything I have ever seen and read on these boards is fine " IN CONTEXT", but sorry folks, some of what goes on here is simply childish and petty to the nth degree.
Answer this if I'm wrong, " Why go to someone elses thread and let rip with a load of old Bo locks if its not trouble you want ?" Not trouble from those who will fight back, always insults to those who absolutely wont fight back.
Not answers to the questions asked, just plain simple vitriolic verbal pooh.
To deny its going on is just plain silly.
"Why should Mr X toughen up ?????" Someone please answer the question ;)
If your life is too tough to deal with, get a new better life. No need to rip into someone else because they are feeling good about themselves.
Stop telling people to toughen up, as though you yourself are tough. Tough to me is when someone takes it on the chin for someone else, not when you take out your frustrations on the quieter types.
OK! so I write manifestos, but try reading them once in a while ;)
Yer yer! Who's this you ask ? The same guy I was when I joined, that's who. It's NOT me who's changed, its you lot.
Its a damn shame when your life is so boring that it is pleasurable to watch quiet people be ripped into by childish wanna be tough nuts. Sorry not impressed !
If you read only one part of this make it this part:
" A good example of good gone wrong is when people like Sean start believing that they are BAD people". That's my yard stick, what's yours ?
How can Sean ever be anything but a decent fella ????? Answer it someone !
Better still, why does he think he is ?
Because of the crap that goes on in here. As the old saying goes S**t sticks. And its been going on that long now its become the norm.
Cynicism is like cancer, it breeds mistrust and anger and scares off the "Genuine" newbies to both the art world and the web world.
Baptism of fire is a good cure..............gimme a break.
You go easy on yerself Sean, real easy fella.................and ease off on that there "Am I a Bad Guy" gas pedal ;) Are far as I know buddy, you won't go back to being a baddy while there is a hole in your bum ;)
best wishes everyone the ever absent but Lurky Laz
yes very well said.......
I'm about my mate, just no time for the tittle tattle anymore :)
If friends are still smiling so am I ;)
catch you later :)
now thats so funny........
I would certainly hope that all those who are willing to express their opinion to AW behind the scenes, would also be willing to do regular "thread participants" the courtesy of sharing their thoughts on this topic publicly.
Just a thought...
but seriously people... we really do NOT need more rules........
silly wabbits!!!
......ofcourse i vote for ONE!
with all the crap going on in the world we as artists have the opportunity to connect and debate with other artists from all over the world.........expressing our thoughts and feelings and argue about them is HEALTHY and NEEDED........we can focus on ourself as little individuals but we can also focus on the bigger picture.....and see the OPPORTUNITY......art is a manifestation of the higher self and therefor has the ability to touch and change without words.......
we have to respect eachother tho.....that should be rule nr 1.....
Here is your forum people...speak up...
Why in the world people go on threads they dont like is far beyond me....
I suspect that there are those who fear a retaliatory response of some kind...but I really doubt that would be the case - and once again, CONSIDER THE SOURCE before choosing to be offended.
I am genuinely interested in the majority of opinion (and so is AW, or they wouldn't have bothered asking). In fact, AW chose this forum for the purpose of showing ALL interested parties how the majority feels. They could've just made their decisions privately based on whatever criteria they chose...their business, remember?!
So, take the time to give your opinion ... to those who are (pro)actively paying attention.
.....looks over her shoulder......
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