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WESTERN ARTWORK By Denny Karchner 02 Dec 2006

OK ArtWanted Staff...who is the artist? Andy, you have said a few times that you are an artist. I see the name Ted Hammond on some and no signatures on others. Are some of the pieces on the site yours? If they are, they are "first rate." Kudos!

No problems with the "edit button here."

Thanks for the changes.--Denny

ArtWanted.com Staff 02 Dec 2006

This is just a test account. The images found in this portfolio are done by other members and are mostly used for our print program samples. :-)

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epsylon lyrae 02 Dec 2006

I'm a moderator on a forum witch has nothing to do with art, it's about computer stuff and all these new changes are exactly what we did there a long time ago :D They are necessary for a forum and I'm happy you made these changes even if I don't post on any message boards.

Buon lavoro, bye :)

bianca 02 Dec 2006

I came here from SHUTTERPOINT and its a well known #1 on the list on the net...Its huge site...and they didnt allow HTML when comenting on the work or rating the work....and yes AW u are right....it can be MALICIOUS virus to wipe everything up......I used be computer programer way back....know all about viruses.......i dont miss them :)

bianca 02 Dec 2006

PUBLIC MODERATORS... if u have 10 images here and dont care about critique or coments ...that is okay to be PUBLIC MODERATOR...but if you have 500+ images and you have established here and have lots of friends....first time you pull out friend NUDE PIC u be bashed in the forums and u will never get coment on your work...and not only that ....some will say well one person is NOT majority..maybe not ..remember that person has at least 10 friends here and they all will avoid your work....by not receiving coments here the way system works....your work will NOT BE EXPOSED....all depend on coments.....Now do you think buyer will sift through to find your image if it is not on front page....they dont have a time for that.....most people dont have patience.....again and again it will CREATE HATE..harted and insults.....AW this is your house and while i am a guest here in your home i will oblige your rules of your home....i am not trying to change anything as i wouldnt want you to change and re-arange my furniture in my home when u come to visit.....LOL u doing great job and i will respect your rules...:)smile

jim rownd 02 Dec 2006

AW I know your thinking someones always going to complain no matter what you do. but your missmagement on this whole ordeal has made this to little to late( how many left?). also banning Bo for calling you an idiot....well your banning was a childish move. plus i see the bigots and kooks are still here.

Marty Yokawonis 02 Dec 2006

I am a few other sites with forums as well, like LeakyCauldron. they don't allow html in the posts but it would be nice to allow videos as some members are starting to do their own and uploading them onto YouTube. Maybe there could be a video forum?

Also I feel VERY STRONGLY as a paid member that moderators need to put their money where their mouth is ie being a PAYING MEMBER and an active participant as far as uploading artwork and interacting with others on the discussion boards. Politicians and other authority figures are supposed to be active in their communities and not just showing up to take names and ban offenders. Anybody who wants to moderate needs to have a balanced attitude especially when it comes to banning images. I have taken issue with the kinds of images being posted sometimes but I would never IMPOSE my personal beliefs on others. I would hope that moderators would have an open mind about images especially involving artwork of figures.

Steph Salt 02 Dec 2006

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Steph - The reason why HTML is not allowed on our message boards (and for most message boards on the net) is because if someone knows what they are doing, they can really mess up the website. Someone can use HTML to put viruses on your computer, install spyware, change your computer settings, mess up the look and feel of ArtWanted.com and many other malicious things. For this reason, most boards on the net do not allow their users to type HTML directly into a post. Live codes are different then allowing all HTML to be input into a message. We would like to add live codes to our boards at a future date.--------- End quote

I would just love to know where you got that idea from, because 9 out of ten sites that I visit allow html, and banning it in a forum does not stop viruses, spyware etc, that is the bigest load of hogwash that I have ever heard.........

Didn't you know that hackers use you url, and spyware infests just by being on a site that is infected. And most of it comes from sites with adverts..... You must think that because we are artists that we know nothing about how things work to believe that......

Oh and one more thing Andy!!! I have not forgotten, if you want really bad pornagraphic art, just look at some art where the models are not nude.

This one for instance, the onbly thing between her being nude and dressed is the colour of her skin and a belt!

Thread is saved............


ArtWanted.com Staff 02 Dec 2006

Steph -

We are not saying that if we block HTML in our forums, you will not get a virus on your computer. We are just saying that by allowing HTML in a forum, a programmer can put an invisible virus/malware/script into a thread and have it start infecting our members computers without them knowing. Someone could introduce virus to all our members with a little know how. Our staff belongs to dozens of websites and almost all of them block HTML. It looks like we don't belong to the same message boards you belong to, but to help protect our members and our own website from malicious members, we have disabled this function. This small inconvenience is for the protection of all our members. This is not a new rule, we have always had this rule, there were just ways to get around it before.

Currently we don't have a policy against 'skin tight' clothing. We also realize that there are thousands of images that are still on our site that should be removed. As we find them, or they are reported to us, they will be removed.

Steph Salt 02 Dec 2006

Good that is a good reply and now I accept your reasoning for not allowing html code.

But now do I need to add a belt to my models to make you look at them differently? After all there is as much detail in my paintings as there are in that one, and you can see the womans nipple in that painting! It's obscene, the nipples nor anything else show in my paintings.

Leigh Karchner 02 Dec 2006

Great changes AW. Thanks!

Under The Garden Gate 02 Dec 2006

i have to say AW, i LIKE what you've done to address the issue of artists fearing their clientelle would see how immature they and their peers can be when left to text for their primary form of expression. The Boards SHOULD BE for members only.

i fear Daisy is right and we haven't seen the end of the issues that got us to this point, but believe that if you apply your rules more evenhandedly and there is some transparency to your decisions and mods, as well as DISCUSSION regarding same, things should flow more smoothly in the future.

We know you could lose the GD boards altogether and not miss a beat with the vast majority of your membership. AW has gone to great pains to make an art 'community' here, but failed to become a part of it, itself....passing judgements and issuing disciplines and punishments with no rhyme or reason, anonymously from on high, but your new avatar tells me that may be changing too...coming down from the mountain to participate in your 'neighborhood' is what makes communities work. Here's to a friendlier, more open and active engagement between 'labor' and 'management'! CHEERS!

Steph Salt 02 Dec 2006

I wouldn't worry about what our clients think of our childishness, it never stopped people buying Piccasso's art nore Leonardo da Vinci's, and he had a lot worse than AW after his blood and paintings.

But I do prefer that most of the boards are private, especially the critiques. I mean who wants then to see how we struggle sometimes?

I just want a honest staff who I can go back to respecting again!!!

ashok nayak 02 Dec 2006

" Currently we don't have a policy against 'skin tight' clothing"...it means at some lable nudes are allowed.Do you please clear it for artists that how much nudity is allowed at AW??Like this image,there is nudity only for tight clothing..unless the boys are just playing with a poster there.

Renate Dartois 02 Dec 2006

Omg Ashok this is soooo funny.....love it.

Anthony Mottram 02 Dec 2006

"I just want an honest staff who I can go back to respecting again!!! "

I agree with Steph.

Your banning of Stephs art was purile and childish to everyone "except" yourselves.

Like has been said "I just want an honest staff who I can go back to respecting again!!!"

How can respect flourish when the post I made that you took out (you should remember it, it was a screenshot of your own randoms with a photographic nude with huge "lungs") yet Steph has had her work trashed.

I asked "Why can't the same methods used to FIND Steph be employed to root out the other genuine rules breaking art ????"

If you can find Steph within hours of posting, then you can "definately" find the other nudes within the 6months they have been here.

You are without doubt using "discretion" to impose the rules. I find it incomprehensible that you use your powers randomly, that effectively supports the wrong doing of some, yet on a whim use it equally "without recourse" to do as is seen fit to others.

Your actions are very often "unbalanced" obviously unbalanced and biased. I'm sorry that this comes over as a rant to you guys, but such is the TRUTH.

There is NO excuse for the post I made.

Recap: you allowed your own random engine to post a photographic nude, yet used your moderator discretions to very quickly remove the mildest of THE most mild nude art forms.

You let my "marjorie post" run. This had nudes in from 1950's still life sessions. You saw the post and let it run. It was educational and historical.

Stephs work was mild in the farthest extremes.

I enclose said deleted screenshot lest it was NOT seen.

PS Stephs nude issue is NOT a "private issue" between the whole site of AW and 1 lady, it is a very public issue. You publicly removed her work and used flimsy excuses for this.

Take care, Ex-Laz

Patrick Miller 02 Dec 2006

Fantastic point Laz. But for me it is simpler than that. You should not even have a rule that you do not have the resources to enforce fairly and completely. To apply rules in a slipshod fashion because you lack the tools to do the job is inviting trouble.

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