rosemary gioielli 27 Jan 2005

well spoken, Martha. wow David. Quite a touchy subject for you eh? how is it that you seem to feel you are able to sum up everyone's elses intent, motivation, and sincerity in a few paragraphs? omnipotent are you? Hi Mark, long time no squabble!

David Díez 28 Jan 2005

Since you will be crucified for rating with some certain numbers, when you are in your right to do so, I would call this a LACK OF FREEDOM and I am not interested in more. And wtf, I never said I am omnipotent; and it is because I am not omnipotent, that only those paragraphs are all what I can do to express how I feel about the ab-use of the rating system. And if you feel like giving a 10 to anyone who owns a scanner and a pencil, I would say you are sadly mistaken. This is not the way in which serious peole would act.

When I was a teenager and I was in the industrial college I said my father somethig like this: "When I show my metal pieces to the teacher he never says they are good". My father answered me: "They will never; if they do so, you will never improve"

And guess who is the first in said to me that my art sucks when it proceed: yeah, he is my father.

When you are mature, and you know by yourself that you became really good - at last -, you will not need no one being "compasive" with you.

David Díez 28 Jan 2005

And wtf, I think the votes should be secret. The votes have always been secret since they were invented.

And the votes should be made by NEUTRAL people, NOT by people with own interests, I mean any member here has an aspiration - Top 10 - which makes the vote ridiculous unvaluable. Bad thing, most of the people walking around here are the members, and well, this is not funny, since the worst client of an artist is another artist.

Also bad, the name of the artist is also influencing the ratings.

rosemary gioielli 28 Jan 2005

ok David. I understand your point of view. The rating system is extremely flawed. We all know that. That is why you can't take it to heart. But in my case I don't rate art that I would have to rate below an eight, because it's not in me. I skip it. Also don't rate work that is loaded with 10s already. The 10s I give mean something to me. I don't give out 10s like they were candy. Trust me, I take art very seriously. I've hidden the ratings/comments on my portfolio, because I think sometimes people are influenced by these. I only rate pieces that grab my eye. I don't rate to receive 10s, I don't rate to kiss butt. If I get in the top 10, it's a good feeling. I don't expect it, I don't ask for it.It's always a surprise, and sometimes I feel guilty because I know it doesn't belong there. I think from your viewpoint, you feel the 10 should be strived for and earned when you are worthy of it, through time and effort. David, that will never be a reality here. Too many of us, too many points of view. And that's ok, because there is still value in it as is. And that's not to say anything in the top ten doesn't deserve it to be there. David, relax and be more generous with yourself. You are a good artist and you deserve that pat on the back your father never gave you. Trying to win approval that was never given means you will never win. One last thought David. Unlike you, some people, when told they are not good enough, will respond by simply giving up.

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