22 February, 2011

Funism Art Movement - Sal Marino, Founder

Ordinarilly I wouldn't mind someone imitating what I do. If fact, it's downright flattering when another artist tries to do what you have already done. But when it comes to theft of intellectual property, it is important to speak out. Somewhere around 2001-2002 I, Sal Marino, began promoting The Funism Art Movement as an original concept and I claimed copyright to the terms "Funism Art Movement" "Funism Art" "Funist", etc. As the notion began to gain attention, several artists, including my good friend, Jay (dots) Smithline of Calabassas, CA jumped on the Funism Bandwagon as a means of promoting their art. Thus the Funism Art Movement was born. Somewhere around 2007 an obscure artist named Norm Magnusson surfaced, announcing to the world, via internet posts that he was the founder of the movement. At first I thought it was a joke, but as time went on, this prankster continued to assert his pirated title, attempting to distract attention from that which I had created, claiming it as his own. I challenged Magnusson to prove his claims, as I could not find any documentatiuon whatsoever prior to his spurious internet boasts circa 2007. Later he referenced an insignificant small town newspaper article in 1991 by an unknown writer who penned the phrase "fun-ism style" while referring to Magnusson's animal drawings. At no time after that publication of that article did Magnusson attach himself or his work to the "Funism" label nor did he identify or promote his work to be associated with The Funism Art Movement until some time in 2007. He did so only after he realized that the movement could afford him some publicity for himself. It would stand to reason that if Magnusson did indeed create the movement in 1991, as his deceptive internet rants claim, that there would be numerous posts and other significant documentation to support his claim. However, the only proof Magnusson could report are the untrue claims of being the founder of the movement, long after I had announced it, after I claimed copyright and continually promoted the movement myself. Throughout art history there have been devious individuals claiming all sorts of titles and concepts as their own in an effort to detract from the origanal creators and seeking some glory for themselves. Some artists are incapable of original thought. Magnusson is no exception to the rule and it is important that he be exposed as the thief and prankster that he is. As for myself, I will let history be the judge of Sal Marino's Art, The Funism Art Movement and truth...

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22 Feb 2011

Diego Sandoval 22 Feb 2011

What exactly is "funism"?

And not to be negative, or against you... but wouldn't "funism" and "fun-ism" be the same thing though?

Chris Callahan 22 Feb 2011

Never heard of it. Historically speaking, Artists that work under a collective heading are less concerned about who started the idea, than advancing its causes.

Its very possible this guy has NEVER heard of you, and in the 25 years I've been painting, this "movement' is news to me. In general it takes more than you and a few buds to make a movement. Movements are followed by many artists, and are advanced thereby.

Its also very possible that the writer of the article simply and opportunistically created the idea quite on their own since when you get right down to it "funism" as an idea, phrase, movement or whatever doesn't seem to me to be all that clever of a concept. Incidentally you can't copyright a phrase, it doesn't work that way. Phrases and slogans should be trademarked. .

23 Feb 2011

Chris Callahan 23 Feb 2011

You have unfortunately generated more publicity for your foe, I looked him up and have to admit I REALLY like his work.

He is well spoken and is a pretty good artist to boot. http://normmagnusson.blogspot.com/

Chris Callahan 23 Feb 2011

Mr Magnussen's style was first mentioned in "The Villager" in the early 9/9/1992 and the paper is anything but small or unknown, serving NYC's lower East Side. He is also evidently quite well known in Art crowds. Evidently when you posted here you didn't expect anyone to actually call you out on your claim. By your own admission, you didn't supposedly come up with it until 2001, well after the NUMEROUS articles about Mr Magnussen.

http://www.thevillager.com/

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http://www.funism.com/art/reviews/aselftaught038.jpg Mr Marino, you argument is coming apart.

Sal Marino, Founder of Funism 02 Apr 2011

...The simple fact is that Magnusson had not identified himself as such nor did he attach the name to his work until sometime in 2007, about the time he launched his website. It stands to reason that if he is who and what he claims, why is it that he can not substantiate any of his claims prior to 2007, nor can he provide any proof until after 2007? Any amateur forensic detective would easily assertain that the internet post boasting his lies have only appeared post 2007. It should also be noted that Magnusson isa member of a site called 'Art of the Prank' which is likely the motivation behind his spurious claims and the reason why internet posts have appeared bolstering his deceptions which are time and date stamped post 2007... Attached below is a response to his theft of Intellectual property...

"Some of you will remember me (Sal Marino) from many years ago when I began promoting The Funism Art Movement c2001-2002, claiming copyright to the "The Funism Art Movement", "Funism Art", "Funist" , etc... Although imitation is said to be the greatest form of flattery, I feel it necessary to point out something that has been happening on the net and elsewhere. In a seemingly devious attempt to take the wind out of my sails and divert attention to himself, an artist [?] by the name of Norm Magnusson has been blogging around the net that he started the movement in 1991. What I had discovered through my research was that there seems to be an obscure article by an unknown writer referencing a "fun-ism style" somewhere around that date. However, there doesn't seem to be any supporting documentation that the article was actually published in 91. I also discovered that Magnusson is a member of a site called "The Art of the Prank" which undoubtedly is the basis of his motivations regarding his posts and likely his art. Curiously, Magnusson had not attached himself, nor his work to the name whatsoever, nor did he promote himself as such until somewhere around 2007 when he launced his site on the net. By 2007 the movement was well established and enjoyed some publicity as such and it is no wonder that some artists would want to attach themselves to it and piggy-back whatever publicity the movement generated. Naturally I challenged Magnusson to provide documentation to his spurious claims, but he failed to respond, instead digging in his heals and expanding his lies. I suspect that through his prankster "MO' some other posts have appeared [curiously post 2007] attempting to bolster his deceptions. While I understand an artist's attempt to garner some publicity, it is an outright theft of intellectual property to claim the creation of another as your own. Magnusson would be better served attempting to create something original if he can and stop stealing and detracting from others. In my opinion Magnusson is nothing more than a thief, prankster and uninspired artist."

Alexandra Sloan 04 Apr 2011

Normally I don't do this. Normally I don't do the teenage girl, facebook twitter complain about ignorant people on the internet thing, but really dude? I read your argument, and before siding with you, or the other guy, I did my homework. I researched both yours and his website, and both your artwork. To be honest I was inspired by his message and art, and insulted by yours. I will be using both quotes and research to back my argument, and I will be showing you little respect since thats what you seem to have for artists like me.

First of all I would like to ask you how you think art movements are started? Do you really think the renaissance was started by a guy buying a name and telling his friends about it? I would also like to ask if you did any research before you put a name on your "movement"? Did you know anything about Norm Magnussun before you started?

So I'll start, just to be nice, with Norm. I found A LOT on him. He's been painting and sculpting for a long time. He has a professional web site, his art is presented professionaly and has deep meaning and humor, and he seems like a guy with a lot of good things to say. He really seems like a genuinely good guy, and does not look like a "prankster". Here are some quotes from his web page. "There's a long literary history of looking to nature for symbols of human existence: the metaphysical and romantic poets, Housman, Hopkins, Whitman, Frost, Ackerman and on and on." Look at that, he knows some stuff! Do you know who those people are without looking them up on google? And frost doesn’t count. Not to mention he was inspired by Andy Goldsworthy who is one of my favorite artists, and I bet you don't even know who he is. " Flags are a symbol of sovereignty and these flags made out of such impermanent material seemed to make a point on the fleeting nature of sovereignty." (on his Flag pieces) He sounds deep. Sorry Sal, but this guy has got me falling in love, and this was before I even looked you up on google.

So I punched you in. Found your little page on google, it was the fourth one down, under three links that led to Norm. I was willing to look through all of Norm's awesomeness and look at your side, and maybe see your point till I read this. And I am quoting from your page too. Look it up if you don't remember, here's your link. http://digitalconsciousness.com/artists/FunismArt/ and here's what you put. At least I'm pretty sure it was you, since you founded this movement it should be you. "If you paint floweres and fruit go someplace else. But if you are out there somewhere and your friends and family think you should be institutionalized, then you belong with us." Dude you didn't even spell flowers right. Considering about 60% of what I paint is flowers, the interest I did have in joining your movement went down the tube. I'll join Norm's version, but not yours.

I honestly did start this on your side. I have had people steal my art, call it theirs and forget to take my signature off it, so I know what it’s like. I just don’t believe that he stole your idea. I also don’t normally get on people’s cases like I did you, but you said some things on your page, and your fineart page that you know were rude. Your movement seems to be about making art that says “I don’t give a damn, and if you do then you can shove your art where the sun don’t shine and if you make art thats pretty, normal or what society deems okay than you can shove it too.” And that’s just asking for it. I may paint pretty flowers and cute animals but I have a mind and an attitude just like you, and honey you asked for it. So before you go feeling hurt that no one is feeling bad for you, maybe you should think about what you’re saying. You’re trying to bring down a very good artist who, as far as I can tell, hasn’t done anything wrong to you. I think he has more creativity and inspiration than you’re giving him credit for. He doesn’t need you to be famous cause he’s already famous. He’s got premanent galleries in several museums around the world and the reason why he got so big in 2007 is because he started an awesome project and gallery that you should check out. http://www.funism.com/art/I75project.html

For the people that read all of my argument. I’m not normally so mean. But I got a little worked up when I read this, quoted from Sal’s page.

“Funism Art is about breaking rules. If you are bored and tired of the hum-drum nonsense that permiates the art world today, if you are an artist who enjoys doing something that most people love to hate, if you like messing with everyone just because you can, if you don't give a rat's poo poo about what the critics say, if you are sick of not selling any of your work and you just want to get even, then the Funism Movement may be just the thing you're looking for. The Funism Art Movement is looking for participants who exhibit a good sense of humor in both their work and personality. If you paint floweres and fruit go someplace else. But if you are out there somewhere and your friends and family think you should be institutionalized, then you belong with us. The Funism Movement helps promote weirdo's and morons and elevates what many consider garbage art to a significantly higher status. hey, anything above trash is an improvement, right? So find out more and join the madness.”

Oh I’m adding a bibliography so he doesn’t sue me.

"Funism Art Artist Page." Digital Consciousness. Web. 05 Apr. 2011. . Peace.

http://artwanted.com/mb/new.cfm?Cat=7&Topic=522297&PageNum=1

05 Apr 2011

marlene burns 05 Apr 2011

how did you claim copyright to that name, specifically?

Alexandra Sloan 05 Apr 2011

I actually have to thank Sal Marino. I really do. After reading his argument I decided to look Norm Magnusson up and I found his webpage and I loved his work. I think it's good to tell artists when you love their work so I sent him an email saying I loved his stuff and asking him to check some of mine out, and he did! I got a really nice critique from him!

So I'm sorry I chewed you out Sal. You kinda did me a favor. I am still leaving my previous "essay" up though because it did take me a while to write and do all that research and even though it is a bit mean thats my honest opinion.

So thank you for bringing this amazing artist to our attention, I am spreading the word about his art, and I will be visiting his galleries sometime in the future.

Diego Sandoval 05 Apr 2011

Sal you make "funism" not so FUn... or should I say Boringism? hehehehehe :P

Sal Marino, Founder of Funism 05 Apr 2011

...All one need do to verify my claim is to do a little forensic detective work and you will discover that most of the data available about this individual is self authored and posted after 2007 in an attempt to back date history and write himself a page. And yes it appears he has indeed fooled some people. If he was indeed who and what he claims, shouldn't there be an abundance of third party articles, reference and data to support his farce? Shouldn't there be time relevant print reviews? Shouldn't there be time relevant show reviews? Other than his own boasts, shouldn't there be verifiable data supporting his claims of inclusion in numerous museum collections? The answer is an emphatic... NO! Do your homework and you will see that I am telling it like it is... No information exists pre 2007 wherein Magnusson identified his work, himself or the movement pre 2007 with the exception of an obscure article authored by someone else which referenced a funism style. There was never a mention or any supporting documentation to validate his recent claims which would identify his work with the movement at that time. None! Nada! Zilch! In a world where it is all too easy to build a false persona while stealing another's ideas and identity, Magnusson has demonstrated his deceptive abilities and had others buy into it. So go ahead and believe what you want. But unlike governments and royalty, Magnusson falls short in his efforts to re-write history with any degree of credibility... at least to those who maintain enough skepticism to question the offer of a bridge for sale.

Alexandra Sloan 05 Apr 2011

Dude your boat is sinking. Can you bring us any proof? Show us this article that you found. You keep making reference to this article that you have no link to, no quotes from, and no way for us to find. Can you in any way show us what you have found beyond your words. Cause right now it's all he said she said. And you're kind of a row boat going against a battle ship in my opinion. The battleship being Norm not me. Do you really think you can punch any holes in Norms credibility with your false words? I may seem silly for being so passionate for arguing with you but really you're a playground bully. And you're gonna be pretty sad when a 19 year old with cotton candy pink hair takes you to school.

Sal Marino, Founder of Funism 05 Apr 2011

...Here are some of the holes in his credibility... ...As a member of the "Art of the Prank" website, Magnusson shamelessly boasts "Art Pranks, Culture Jamming and Reality Hacking" as if it were a badge! He can also be found on the list of "Culture Jamming Organizations or People" at www.absoluteateastronomy.com/topics/Culture Jamming.

Don't believe everything you read on the internet, especially the posts of pranksters. Do your homework and you will see that my boat floats, indeed! If you still buy into his deceptions then I would only suggest that you are exactly the target he has intended.

Alexandra Sloan 05 Apr 2011

I put in your link and it didn't work. So I found the website you were trying to show and I did find Norm on there and it basically told me what I already know. It's actually the first place I found information about him, so you're not really giving me any new info there.

So I dug deep, and I found the culture jamming reference you used. I honestly don't think you know what it really is because if you did you would realize thats not to far off from what you're trying to do. You're movement is about going away from the norm correct? From what I'm reading, and yes sir, I'm doing my homework, culture jamming is all about questioning the norm. And it seems to me like you're very proud of what you're doing, and you're pretty proud of your obscene art and book, so really aren't you being a little hypocritical? Can you really point a finger at him and call him a punk when really he's being professional and you're being quite rude?

Here are some links if others would like to follow along.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Culture_jamming

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_jamming

And yes my links work.

AND I’M STILL WAITING ON A LINK TO HIS FIRST ARTICLE!!!! THE ONE YOU KEEP REFERENCING TO!!!

Alexandra Sloan 05 Apr 2011

So this is what I think. You have no idea what you're talking about. You have a few things that you keep repeating and waiving around, but little ground to stand on. You're an unknown artist going up against a well known artist, which is pretty, for lack of a better word, dumb.

Now before the name calling, and the insults which from what I've learned about you cause the internet is a wonderful thing, you're quite good at being crass. I want to know one thing. You claim you copyrighted Funism. How, When, How Much, Where, and DID YOU REALLY? Thats what I want to know most.

Sal Marino, Founder of Funism 06 Apr 2011

It's OK...I will respond. Apparently Alexandra is a fan of the individual in question and regardless of what factual information is presented, she will continue to defend him. One would wonder if she is perhaps a friend or relative of this individual, as he seems to have recruited a group of teenagers to also blog around the net, supporting and adding to his deceptions (search: Researchism). {When I posted a response and questions on that site, it was systematically deleted by its moderators! Hummmm?} As for Alexandra's 19 year old youthfull exuberance and gullibility, albiet limited worldly experience, she has yet to decipher what I have likely already forgotten in my six plus decades on this orb. At the very least, she should respect my experience. In time I suspect she will come to understand that following someone or something blindly, without proof or denial of that proof may lead one down a rocky, unforgiving road. If she questions this, perhaps she should study modern history and examine the examples of Jonestown, Manson, Wacco and the like... It is my sincere hope that she will be enlightened by her findings and truly become aware of the prank being played on her and others by the individual in question. I will leave this forum discussion now as I suspect it will only lead to further immature attacks and stray away from the facts. If anyone wishes to contact me by email they may do so through this site. Sal Marino, Founder of The Funism Art Movement

jim rownd 06 Apr 2011

"wonder if she is perhaps a friend or relative of this individual"

O.k. that statement pretty much destroyed any legitimacy you had going and shows where your really at.

Diego Sandoval 06 Apr 2011

I don't understand why you're so proud/attached to being the "founder of the Funism art movement..."

Really?

Nobody really cares... I'm glad I'm not a paying member so I can actually state my opinions freely.

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