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Jerry 20 Apr 2009

Gage, You certainly have an interesting style. I would love to see your ballpoint art.

Rezo, your colored pencil & ballpoint art is fantastic, I love your coloring and style. Jerry

Jerry 20 Apr 2009

Sylvia, I went to several places you’re with on the Web. I love your delightful floral pictures, colors, landscapes and abstracts. Yes, the ballpoint pen is very quick or fast and that's very important while doing spontaneous creations or art works. Jerry

Randy, How did your art show go and how is your colored pencil drawing coming along?

Randy Nore 26 May 2009

Well.....I posted this over a year ago and haven't been by to check on what is happening on here.This was meant to be for people to maybe post a photo of their stuff or ask a question....not for self promotion.I find it kind of sad as this was a good thread and it totally went on to one person's art show......this will be the last time I post anything on here......have fun and feel free to answer all the question that are posted here as you have took it upon yourself to do so already. Randy Nore

Jerry 27 May 2009

I would like to address Randy’s last message which seems to be directed towards me. Randy, you have not been at this thread for about one year plus talked about taking up colored pencils or changing art mediums!

Randy, lets look at what you said, on your first message, ok.

(RANDY STATES) Ballpoint pen Artists???? [I posted this same question about a year ago when I started on here and just wanted to see if there was any new people out there that use ballpoint pen as a main medium.]

(Then Randy asked) [Anymore people out there/ let me know]

Well Randy, I wasn’t reading this message board for the past four years because I was busy commenting on thousands and thousands of artworks posted by other members here with AW. Therefore, I didn’t see your first thread. I did however see you invite people using a ballpoint pen as a major art medium to reply!

Randy, I’m wondering how you call a thread with over 2,200 hits disappointing? Randy, why don’t you address the messages or talk about those artworks posted by Aonghas, Claire, Mandy, Darryl, Mark, Rezo, Gage and Sylvia put up after your year long departure? I’m not seeing a heart of thanksgiving or gratitude being expressed my friends.

It seems to me that all the messages posted here offers Randy an opportunity to shine, communicate and direct others towards what he see’s beneficial to this amazing art movement. (Count our blessings not our sorrows!)

Randy a went to your gallery and found 20 ballpoint pen drawings and one paragraph posted as a biography. It seems to me people need to be educated about what’s going on with our medium. Our art movement is made up of people and that includes me, my friend. Self promotion pertains to things like registering with search engines, advertising on billboards, radio, T.V., in magazines, newspapers, with marketing firms, publishing press releases, contacting museums or art galleries Randy. There’s a big difference between those activities and expressing my views or thoughts on a message board Sir. Commercial artists know the difference between those things my friend. (If you told an advertising agent you desired to promote yourself posting ideas or stats on a message board wouldn’t be brought up Randy.)

Randy, Mandy thanked me for posting lots of information about a ballpoint pen or this art movement. What do you say about that, Sir?

Randy, more new people posted art or positive messages after I arrived than before you left for a year. What do you think of that my friend?

Randy, I’ve been doing ballpoint pen art related things four times as long as you my friend. Why does it surprise you I have more to say on the topic?

Randy, I commented on thousands of other artists works here with ArtWanted over the past several years so I could meet more people, see lots of great artworks plus help this forum. I therefore received over ½ million hits on my 174 ballpoint pen drawings posted. Those visitors commented on my drawings 7,658 times. Within those fantastic comments you’ll see that many people constantly thanked me for providing information about my life, ballpoint pens or this art movement. I therefore thought people desired to learn more about ballpoint pen art plus get an update on my adventures.

When I discovered your (Ballpoint pen Artists????) thread I was pleased to see that someone at this forum was interested in something I’ve been doing for decades. I also noticed you stopped communicating or replying to those posting messages! Naturally I thought collaborating with others posting positive messages was in order Randy. I learned that other ArtWanted members loved hearing about our art movement or instrument therefore providing such information would be very positive or helpful to this thread. I was correct because the number of hits doubled after I started posting. I don’t understand why that much progress gets determined as being incorrect?

I’m always puzzled why facts, rational think or logic ruffles the feathers of many artists? Randy you invited other ballpoint pen artists to contribute to this thread yet get upset when someone actually does so during your year long departure. If you actually answer all the questions asked, comment on everyone’s artworks and messages this thread would take off my friend. I personally thought you abandoned this thread my friend because you stopped replying to our post!

Randy this is a public forum, group or message board. Not everyone is on the same page or looks at life in the same manner therefore sharing our differences are in order. Randy, I’m the most prolific ballpoint pen artist and publisher of such on the WWW or in history therefore you might think of my impute as a blessing. I’m also the one that invited you to this site Randy. I emailed you a year ago about what I’m doing plus told you I was going to reply to this thread. You didn’t reply to that email or speck out at this location for an entire year. Now you’re surprised I’m sharing!

I have a son about your age Randy. So I realize being young is difficult or a pain at times because you have to deal with older or more experienced people. Instead of complaining why don’t you go positive and reply to the things posted during your year long departure?

Hopefully people realize the difference between commercial advertisings (promotions) and somebody at a forum expressing themselves or sharing with others. Randy, people talking about their lives, adventures, programs or thoughts is what people do with their friends or neighbors. That’s a lot different than actually developing a commercial advertising champagne to be used via a selected media which is how promotions are done!

Maybe Randy will lighten up and reply to the people that left messages at this thread, maybe not! I see Randy gives me (quote) permission to share with a forum I’ve been with years before he showed up. Thank you, Sir. Please take note of my civilized reply and proper manners Randy.

May Randy and all others have a blessed day, great health and answered prayers, amen.

Mr. Jerry Stith

Minnie Shuler 31 May 2009

You are a great inspiration. I love pen and ink, but not so much ball point. Here is one of the few ball point pieces I've done. The color has been altered with the computer, it is black.

Minnie Shuler 31 May 2009

This was a small ballpoint sketch. It has been altered in color by the computer and a fractal background added...I like the sketchiness of ball points. I find I use the pen mostly in connection with other mediums. Question: Do you know a medium that will smear ballpoint in a controllable manner? Perhaps that defeats your dpi method of shading but I like to push the medium to unknown limits. Technique suggestions would be nice. I love your work Randy, but I know I am not in that league.

Minnie Shuler 31 May 2009

One more stage. This is how I most often use the ballpoint as a tool in the process. Pencil sketch, ink with ballpoint, colored pencils and this one has neon highlights with neon markers. Finally, once over again with the ballpoint. Though not in this piece it would then be given a fractal background to give it a loose feel. Ballpoint can be such a tight medium, and I find by nature I am not such a tight artist....but I do love to utilize it in my work. Enjoyed the thread.

Randy Nore 01 Jun 2009

No comment Jerry............nice try though. I am above what you are trying to start...I was warned by others of you and I see why....

Jerry 01 Jun 2009

I’m pleased you returned Randy. Now I can ask you some questions.

I’m interested in asking you some ballpoint pen questions, Sir? Did you like Lindy Pen’s thirteen colors? Which of their colors did you like best? What gold ink did you like the best: Lindy’s, Fisher’s or that from Atlas? Have you tried Fisher Pens silver, burgundy or brown colors? What did you think of Parker Pen’s ultra or extra-fine ballpoint tips. Do you remember what two colors that tip came out with? What’s your take on the new liquid or synthetic resigns being introduced by some ballpoint manufactures? How long have you been doing colored ballpoint pen drawings? What makes a yellow ink hard to work with?

What is your site’s URL? What direction or plans do you have pertaining to this particular art movement? Are you now doing colored pencils like you said? What happened with the show you went to?

Randy, I thought you invited people to your thread. Should people stop posting to a thread if you leave for a year? Are you going to answer people’s questions or comment on their statements and art?

Jerry Stith

Jerry 01 Jun 2009

Minnie, Your deer picture is fantastic. I love the way you used the white tree and deer. Most Excellent! Your fading background, brilliant textured tree standing behind the white deer is simply great. Your stacking effect as a frame is really cool.

Changing your picture to brown from black really worked well in my opinion. Minnie, I’ve altered many of my ballpoint pen drawings through the years for the Internet. Mixing medium, pens, nib sizes or inks work well from my experience.

Your friend, Jerry

Jerry 01 Jun 2009

Minnie, your pretty colored bird picture is spectacular. I love the colors, arrangement, textures, framing and style. Your fractal background is superb! You’re doing some wonderful artworks Minnie.

Remember, impressionism out sells realism according to marketing records. You’re doing something special so don’t worry about what others are doing. I simply suggest doing lots of work because in the end that makes a big difference.

Your friend, Jerry

Jerry 01 Jun 2009

Minnie, turpentine, linseed oil and water will smear a ballpoint pen ink. The ballpoint pen ink is oil-based therefore turpentine or a linseed oil will soften or spread it with a brush. Both those compounds will work with oil pastels as well Minnie.

Cheers, Jerry

Jerry 02 Jun 2009

Minnie I’m pleased you have enjoyed this thread. I noticed two times you’ve asked for technique suggestions in order to expand your experience level. Here’s a list of pens on the market: felt tips, rollerball, uni-ball, markers, sharpies, quills, Speedo, tech, bamboo, highlighters, neon, gel, cartridge, fountain and a blanch. Remember that all those pens us water based inks except a ballpoint pen. A ballpoint uses an oil-based ink. All these instruments make up the Pen & Ink art movement! Using all these pens in one artwork is a great idea!

As an artists you might consider obtaining ISO/DIN archival inks because that’s what collectors, investors or museum desire.

Minnie there are some silver & gold Metallic pens on the market. They are rather thick pens, need to be shaken before being used plus have an alcohol base. However the metallic look is great on bridges, buildings, flowers or things like rocks.

The Monteverde pen company is now producing perfumed inks Minnie which is great for cards.

Color altering works as do color saturation (balance) changes. Color reversals: A color reversal will make a white back ground black and display a picture with the opposite colors; and that is a great way to start new programs. Placing letters on top of a color reversal and framing it worked well for me, Minnie.

Minnie I’ve changed a few of my colored drawings into a B&W, then turned that image to a mono picture. Doing a color saturation on the mono work will help you produce a desired mood.

Computer changes: (1) Microsoft Picture It! Premium 10 is great for sizing, color changes, lettering, sharpening or blurring images and changing picture formatting. (2) Photo Explosion; Fanta Morph. If you’re interested in motion or changing pictures for the Internet morphing works well or adds a flare to your gallery (ArtWanted galleries are great for displaying morphing formats), (3) Photo Impact Pro is an inexpensive software program that does some animation effects. It also does cloning and much, much more Minnie. (ArtWanted galleries work great with small animated works) (4) Photo Story 3 for Windows, (5) Window Movie Maker; these last two programs are great if you’re interested in doing video work. They are rather limited yet excellent for beginners heading in that direction. I have twelve video’s posted with Google that got produced with those programs.

Minnie, it’s very important to have many works if developing art video’s are of interest. There are over one billion people registered with the email providers or different networks which means the competition is very competitive on the Web. That should indicate developing your writing abilities, computer skills, art experiences and knowledge of the art community is highly recommended. I've been sharpen up my skills as an artist for the past fifty-four years. Is that why some people say, respect your Elders?

I was reading that 85% of the American people never took a business coarse therefore knowing how marketing, sales, public relations, promotions, advertising or mass production is beyond their grasp. ArtWanted provides an art marketing news letter that will be most helpful for those interested in learning those things. ArtWanted also can produce prints, cards or other production materials from your artworks which is great if fading is a problem.

Please look for archival art materials, take pictures, make slides or prints of your works to preserve your original artistic images. Never stop trying, don’t under estimate your abilities and never turn your back on your supporters or fans!

Minnie, hopefully some of my suggestions will help you and others push their artistic limits to meet the needs of those billion surfers or researchers on the Web. If you’re interested in becoming an International known artist or leader its extremely important to research the art community, learn business practices, contracts plus developing your writing or communication skills.

Minnie may you have a blessed day, great health, success and answered prayers, amen.

Your friend, Jerry

Jerry 02 Jun 2009

MY PEOPLE DIMINISH DO TO A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE! Over the decades people from around the world have been emailing me pertaining to colored ballpoint pens. Today, there are more manufactures of colored ballpoint pens or refills than at any time in my life. I say that easily because of the massive research or travels I’ve completed in my days. If you look future you’ll discover the ISO/DIN ballpoint inks. The industry is now advertising such as security inks. Here’s a list of colored ballpoint pens or refills for your enjoyment my friends. 21 COLORED BALLPOINT PEN & REFILL BRANDS (JUNE, 2009)

(1.) Monteverde Cross® compatible Ballpoint Ink Refill Available in Black, Blue, Blue/Black, Brown, Orange, Pink, Purple, Turquoise, Red and Green. Dimensions: Length - 4 9/16" (11,6 cm); Diameter - .120" (0.3cm)

(2.) Monteverde® Medium Ballpoint ink for retractable Parker® pens! 10 exciting colors! Black, Blue, Blue/Black, Brown, Orange, Pink, Purple, Turquoise, Red and Green ink. Dimensions: Length - 3 7/8" (9,8 cm); Diameter - .230" (0.58cm)

(3.) Monteverde® WATERMAN POINT PEN REFILLS Available in Black, Blue, Blue/Black, Brown, Orange, Pink, Purple, Turquoise, Red and Green. Nickel silver tube and tip

(4.) Sensa & Fisher ballpoint pen refills 11 colored Sensa and Fisher refills: New Ultra Violet which glows under Black Light, it is invisible without the Black Light!

(5.) Schefeild Frosty 9 Multi-color ball point pen Available in medium (1mm) and fine (0.8mm) tips

(6.) Shanghai Weijun Group Stationery Manufactory 12-piece Color Pen Measures 175 x 140 x 12mm Model Number:STG147 (7.) Schefields Easygrip ballpoint pen Pink, yellow light blue, blue, purple, black, red (oil based) Available in medium (1mm) and fine (0.8mm) tips German Ink

(8.) Schefield Prism Available in medium (1mm) and fine (0.8mm) tips 10 multi-colored ballpoint pens

(9.) Pilot Ballpoint Black, blue, green, red, purple (oil-based

(10.) Pilot Easy Touch black, blue, purple, red, green (oil-based) Available in Fine, Medium, and Broad points

(11.) Monteverde Liquid Mini Ballpoint Refill 11 colors: black, blue, blue/black, turquoise, purple, pink, red, brown, orange, green, yellow (oil-based)

(12.) Pentel RSVP Razzle Dazzle Ballpoint Pen 8 colors: black, red, blue, green, orange, pink, turquoise, purple (13.) Staedtler: 1.6 Maxum Ballpoint Pens 8 colors: pink, red, orange, green, turquoise, blue, purple, black (14.) Pilot Retrackable Mini Ballpoint Pens 7 colors available: red, black, blue, green, orange, purple, turquoise (15.) SANFORD INK COMPANY #: PAP54549 Paper Mate CUCK 8 Pen (oil-based) 8 colors: Black, Blue, Green, Magenta, Orange, Purple, Red, Turquoise (16.) Zebra Pen Z-Grip Ballpoint Pen 8 colors: black, blue, red, green, violet, orange, teal and fuchsia (oil-based)

(17.) Reynolds Ballpoint Pens 10 colors: black, pink, brown, turquoise, blue, orange, red, green, yellow-green, purple (oil-based)

(18.) Arty Crafty Rainbow Neon Ballpoint Pens 12 colors: black, brown, yellow-green, olive-green, green, blue, turquoise, purple, orange, red, pink, burgundy (oil-based)

(19.) Muji Ballpoint Pen 6 Colors : Black, Red, Pink, Light Blue, Orange and Navy (oil-based)

20. BIC MINI CRYSTAL PENS (France) 6 colors, green, purple, orange, pink, red, turquoise, blue (oil-based)

Minnie Shuler 06 Jun 2009

Thank you, Jerry. I have printed your comments for reference.

Minnie Shuler 06 Jun 2009

Another question. What type of paper is best suited for ballpoint pen art. Regular sketch paper will buckle when a thick application is needed and sometimes bristol board too. Ergo this falcon caused me much stress, until I finally just cloned out the worst parts of the puckers. Gave up for a few months after it.

Jerry 06 Jun 2009

Minnie, I’m very pleased my information is of some help. You’re requesting information about different kinds of art papers. Please remember some ballpoint pen artists are now drawing on canvas. Here’s a list of papers: drawing, watercolor, block watercolor, printmaking, handmade, rage, woodblock, painting papers, painting board, canvas, canvas boards will all handle a ballpoint pen.

Paper information: standard **90-140-260-300-500 lbs. papers **Painters papers are 90-500 lbs. **The thickness of a sheet of watercolor paper is measured by weight. So, logically, the greater the weight, the thicker the sheet. It is measured either in pounds per ream (lb) or grams per square meter (gsm). The standard weights of paper are 90 lb (190 gsm), 140 lb (300 gsm), 260 lb (356 gsm), and 300 lb (638 gsm).

(PAPER BRANDS: Arches, Fives BFK, d’Arches, Stonehenge, Utrech, Legion, Yasutomo plus American brands)

Watercolor papers come in different surfaces and weights. (1.) Machine-made watercolor papers come in three surfaces: rough, hot-pressed or HP, and cold-pressed (or NOT). (2.) Rough watercolor paper has a prominent tooth, or textured surface. This creates a grainy effect as pools of water collect in the indentations in the paper. (3.) Hot-pressed watercolor paper has a fine-grained, smooth surface, with almost no tooth. Paint dries very quickly on it. This makes it ideal for large, even washes of color. (4.) Cold-pressed watercolor paper has a slightly textured surface, somewhere in between rough and hot-pressed paper. It's the paper used most often by watercolor artists. (5.) Watercolor paper differs from manufacturer to manufacturer, so experiment not only with the different kinds of paper but also with various brands of paper. (6.) The thickness of watercolor paper is indicated by its weight, measured either in grams per square metre (gsm) or pounds per ream (lb). (7.) The standard machine weights are 190 gsm (90 lb), 300 gsm (140 lb), 356 gsm (260 lb), and 638 gsm (300 lb). Paper less than 356 gsm (260 lb) should stretched before use, otherwise it's likely to warp.

Tips: Watercolor paper is usually white, but it need not be. A variety of cool and warm tints is available. (1.) Use acid-free paper for paintings you wish to keep as this will yellow less with age. (2.) Cold-pressed watercolor paper is called NOT paper because it's not hot-pressed. (3.) You can buy prestretched watercolor paper in drawing blocks. When you've finished a painting, you use a palette knife to remove the top sheet from the block.

The paper industry has seen many changes in the past 150 years. The demand of paper is eventually rising with each passing day and there are certain paper facts that one should know.

Watercolor paper is also sold in blocks that are 'stuck together' at the edges. This format has the advantage that the paper doesn't have to be stretched before you paint on it to avoid it buckling.

There are disadvantages to watercolor block though. For starters, you have to leave the painting to dry in the block (if you separate a sheet off before it's dry, it may buckle as it dries). Which means that you need more than one block if you want to do several paintings on after another.

Also, some manufacturers don't assemble their blocks so that the same side of the paper is always at the top. So you may find yourself painting on the 'right' and then the 'wrong' side of a paper. And I've heard artists say paper in a block didn't have the identical surface texture as the same brand in a single sheet, so watch out for that. Watercolor paper sold in blocks is usually more expensive than any other format, but the convenience may make you decide it's worth it.

Minnie Shuler 06 Jun 2009

Jerry, I tried 5 mediums for smearing the ink and none of them worked very well (linseed oil, Oil paintinng medium, turpenoid, nail polish remover, and alcohol). The oil painting medium smeared some but did not smudge the lines. I tried these on the piece I have posted here. I had hoped to smear the shadow on the leaves and limbs to almost a smooth wash consistency. I'll keep trying. This was made with the ink drawing and photoshop. About 7 layers, eventually merged. A solid color background which I ran through the adjust color until I found the shade I wanted. Then a fractal layer, at about 80 percent. Three layers of ink leaves all at about 30 %, two layers of 100% leaves all turned, flipped and slid, adjusted to the tone that I wanted...which is darkened considerable from the original and the colors intensified but holding the original hue of the drawing. It would have been much better I think if I could have smeared the shadow.

Minnie Shuler 06 Jun 2009

I had not thought of using my watercolor paper for solely an ink project and certainly not a canvas. I will try that next and continue trying different mediums to get a smeared effect. Thanks

Jerry 07 Jun 2009

Minnie, that new falcon picture is another spectacular example of your artistic brilliance! It reminds me of a hologram. Your details and shading of the tree is excellent. It has that flash bulb look as well. Pictures representing night are difficult plus add lots of work via a ballpoint pen. Building up dark areas or blacks certainly can add dimension or depth in any artwork. I certainly am impressed as well as taught a wonderful lesson in lighting. Rembrandt was another great artist that dealt with lighting as did Caravaggio.

Your friend, Jerry