They know what I think & I hope they take what I say in the manner with which it is intended. I have a feeling that the folks at AW are very, very SMART indeed!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess they are ashamed to post some of the stuff they have with their regular names and still continue to do and want to save face...typical troublemaker behavior.
Thank you maddison :) i hope AW acts soon too, this is the same kind of bashing they do in the forums all the time....they post and post gang up on people and when you try to defend yourself they cry wolf and start pointing fingers-there was a reason why i labeled them a pack of wolves and they have proven that is what they are over and over again...and thats why moderation is needed to keep in order inmature people, no artist/person deserves this it's too bad and feel sorry for some artists I respected and looked up to when I first joined here to see them make fun of the situation and support this chaos. I feel sorry for them now and lost respect for them.
They have insulted artists, the AW staff with rude obscene images and comments , the fact they still keep them around shows patience in their part. One thing one of the troublemakers were correct was that AW knows EXACTLY what they are-rest assure they do-now more than ever.
I have never made one bad comment on anyones art ever...Not even Magnum P.I....
What I don't and won't tolerate is arrogance from anyone.Especially when they attack the weaker folks.
Debate,arguments and sometimes flatout dislike is healthy and necessary.
Alot of people here have already formed their fences,its quite obvious...Is it because so and so patted your back?Or is it because someone made a nasty comment on your work? If someone said it sucked...it probably did...Get over it and try to get better.
If you think I am a trouble maker...for Gods sake stay away from me.Because there are people here who know who and what I stand for....
And if the band your in starts playing different tunes...I'll see you on the darkside of the....Moon......
I cannot agree more with this statement. True colors come out now....plain as day.
There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everyone's wrong
People speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
Yeah, stop children, what's that sound
What a field-day for the heat
Ten thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the man come and
take you away
Stop, children, what's that sound
Stop, hey, what's that sound
You better stop! Stop You better stop! Stop You better stop!
Sean, Bo, David Bass, Invisible, Pete, Wendy, Gayla, Kathi, Joan, Linda, Patrick, James S, Eileen, Mi, Rebecca, Jennifer, Blue, Laz, Les, Mandible, Solar, Terence, Daisy, RQ, Denny, James R, Steve, Steve, Karen, Thea, Chris, Stephanie, Steph, Martha.. gosh who am I missing?
All of you.. (and many others.. please forgive me if I've missed you!) have made me laugh, cry, THINK, blush, and a MUCH better artist, and the boards just wouldn't be the same without all of you.
To those who have been hurt and harmed I wish that there was a way to wipe the slate clean. I suppose this is a sappy post... but you all have so enriched my life... that I just wish we could just put the problems aside. Sorry guys.
=}
This is directed to Sean....sorry but after everything you read you honestly are going to sit there and tell me this has to do with comments on artwork and galleries?..lol
sorry to disappoint you but it has nothing to do with that- not in my case anyway- it has to do with certain individuals who are members of this art site who act like bull dogs and shred people to shreds- haven't you read their bashing? or are you too going to be like some of them and pretend not to see it? AW has asked a simple question what to do with troublemakers and some of you pretend the problem doesn't exist even though you see it before your eyes even on this thread or are you too going to play reverse psychology?
Let me ask you this-do you think I deserved to be attacked for no reason at all? Because sir that is what happened to me and many other artists and yes I do label people like that as TROUBLEMAKERS and AW thinks that too it's a fitting description for them.
You never did anything to me I don't have a problem with you I do read you have some problems with some other artist- it's none of my business.
I'm a member of this forum as much as YOU or any of them are AW has the right to protect me and artists from individuals like them and if they want to keep them around then they will have to in-force laws and rules and moderation.I'm not someone's toy to play around with.
As for comments on galleries I dare anyone to say I ever left anything but supportive messages to them but judging how some of you find support and encouragement in attack kind comments I think my comments were unappreciated for some.
I do remember some very nice comments you have left on my art and vice versa, rest assure this has nothing to do with criticisms on art or comments no offense but i can care less what some of them especially the 'troublemakers' think of my art,because i dont care- i have come far and accomplished many things artwise my family and friends opinions are the ones that matter the most to me-i do however think there are some members here who are jealous of me and i have prove of that-but thats a different subject.
This has to do with some members here who have the need to act like bull dogs and shred people to shreds for no reason at all-sorry if they are friends of yours but that is the truth and the truth hurts sometimes.
TRUE COLORS
sung by Cyndi Lauper
(Tom Kelly, Billy Steinberg)
You with the sad eyes
Don't be discouraged
Oh I realize
It's hard to take courage
In a world full of people
You can lose sight of it all
And the darkness inside you
Can make you feel so small
But I see your true colors
Shining through
I see your true colors
And that's why I love you
So don't be afraid to let them show
Your true colors
True colors are beautiful, Like a rainbow
Show me a smile then,
Don't be unhappy, can't remember
When I last saw you laughing
If this world makes you crazy
And you've taken all you can bear
You call me up
Because you know I'll be there
And I'll see your true colors
True colors are beautiful,
Like a rainbow
No offense really...but you are preaching a right wing agenda souly for your own purposes...because you had some problems...
Now multiply that by the thousands of other artists that have had any incidents with any other artist on this site...Guess what...GIANT CESSPOOL OF HUMANITY...
The bottom line is this...(this is to everyone not just you)
Do not put artwork up if you cant handle crits of any kind...
Do not go on threads that upset you...
I have always said that cyberspace was like a city...You have
1,Precious moments stores(needed)
2,General stores for general needs...(also needed)
3,Saloons and taverns on every main street corner...(a reality)
If you would not go into a tavern in real life why are people going there here...????
I truly do not understand that.
I like precious moments but I like a good tavern too....
Debs sorry lovely but this...........
" The REAL problem is the whiners! In order to be an artist ..........."
would read better as this,
" The REAL problem is the innocent! In order to be a PROFESSIONAL artist ........."
That's what ALL YOU like minded folk forget. You confuse your own "liking" of a tough life as being the same reality of everyone else. It almost says "be like me, I'm a tough cookie", but in reality many don't have such lives.
I NEVER expect them to be like me :) Why should you like minded members want this of those who have NO need of it ???? Why should normal people HAVE TO toughen up ??????????
I remember you lovely as 1 of the few kind people who posted to Marjorie. Should I nip round to her house and tell her to STFu, get a tougher skin, and stop being a whiny bleater ????
I like what you did instead. It simply said " hey old girl, have a nice day and its OK to be old and set in your ways, whilst getting ready for bed". I like the REAL you :)
This applies to ALL of you :) Stop being roped in by the trolls. Turf the buggers out of your head, out of your thoughts and out of AW.
There are at least 3 in here who regularly do port scans. Stop being fooled by the Troll Bots. It's their entire life to simply upset folk. FULLSTOP :)The pickings are rich in here.
I've asked it a thousand times before, yet NO ONE EVER answers, because they are scared it will end this nonsensical thought of "toughen up".
"Why should Innocent folk have to toughen up ??????????????" Does this apply to my Mum ? My son ? My daughter ? My wife ? 40+ tough nuts in here and NOT 1 to pluck up the courage to enter a losing battle by answering the simple question.
I've picked your post Debs because your point was clear, AND it speaks in tongues for a great many others who feel the world needs to toughen up. You know who you all are. ALL "good" people who, like everyone else feel torn to "take sides" and "stick to your guns". WHY act like Trolls ??????????
Slowly the mood of this place has changed many of you. Troll Bo has almost sealed this New Mood on you lot, you almost believe he is a NICE guy. Don't be so silly :)
I like his arguments when he has the courage to stick to them, because he always shows his true colours in them when he starts to lose. Outside of that I have to assume he has something in his life he actually likes :) If he does he never shares it :) Sharing Good things is not something I can attribute to this person. Not from their posts on here anyways.
A 54 year old world reknowned artist who gets his rocks off on upsetting innocent and aging folk. ALWAYS :) NAH something simply is not right with that picture.
Never liked the guy since he came in with "I'm a Troll tattooed on his forehead". Damn shame though because I offered him friendship on the boards many times. Seemed to be someone worth getting to know because of his ART. Never fancied copulating with him though :)
Sorry fella, but you are a very good yardstick of how life has changed in here. ALL moan and poke fun at the weak, and all run and hide from those who fight back.
Best part of the last 50 posts, although many are well said and put, is this part of a sentence by someone who speaks their mind with truth " I defend the innocent when called for".
Me too :)
Damn shame its about 50 to 1 against at the moment, but hey, a multi user Troll appears to be all over the place at any 1 time.
Be very wary of anyone who is proud of the heritage that promoted "involuntary euthanasia" right up until the 80's.
You are right AW, this place is at WAR, and has been for a long time. It wont be for much longer though if you don't do something about it ;)
AW, You have lost 7 members that I can name. Those 7 posted endless hours of Genuine Critique and Support and Tutorials to a HUGE and grateful audience. Upon this, the newbies flooded in, and AW flourished.
They have been replaced by 7 trolls who live ONLY for the thrill of making innocent and normal people feel threatened, exposed and unprotected. Your boards are NOT safe to frequent with so many trolls on board.
Find them, expell them, and do whatever it takes, before you lose more Genuine members. OR Warn ALL users of what to expect when arriving here.
This is a hostile takeover and you can't see it ;) Get with your allies and take this to task.
As the old saying goes " I used to be uncertain, but now I'm just not sure anymore".
Best wishes anyways, Laz.
PS you are right, I shouldn't name folk. Alas he was the last 1 in that left me with this lovely thought on arriving:
"Save your words wise man, for you'll need them soon enough".
This was said after being here only a week. Make your own calls on what this means ;)
Best part of Poker my man is when you have 4 Aces and the stakes keep getting higher.
LOVE IT :)
You can't beat that feeling when the arrogant bluffer stakes his life on a bad hand cause he is too scared to lose face :)
I need some Meddle ;) Laz
PPS Hey Laura............you keep smiling lovely, its a beautiful world, STILL :)
Katrina too ;) Great Posts Lovely :)
The Lunatics are only on the grass :) Not in the Hall yet :) Laz
Thanks man...No one should be used as a treadmill by anyone just because they are not as "tough skinned"...Later my friend.
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