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My latest self - portrait, done inspired by the "NEW LOOK" of AW. Captured by the system.
Those who know me, and are following my ART & words, since the 28 of Aug 04, in this site...
Learned to know me so well, during the years.
You know the kind of colourful personality I'm inside and outside. And the kind of positive joy, I try to bring here, USUALLY.
These last 5 days or so, since AW, Revolution , I feel totally different at the site.
I love this place, which I made my main virtual "HOME/GALLERY", to post and "talk" on everyday base.
During the last year, MANY Members of AW, send me, SO MANY invitations to other ART sites... I always thanked them..
But ... ...
Knowing how much I'm busy with creating my ART, my LIFE... And my LOVE to AW, and it's WONDERFUL members and friends I have here, I didn't checked it even.
After about 80% of my friends were also in RB, I decided to give it a try especially, because the RB way of showing the ART Products for print, is a professional way. Using the artist images, for the presentation... very easy & friendly to use.
YET, The first place, that I posted, stayed AW, for ME, home... My main place in internet to show new images everyday.
After the HUGE SHOCK of July, 15,08... With my critic, that partly could be read in my portfolio, or MORE at the AW thread, that they started.
I feel, This new shape packaging / wrapping, can't represent ME. It started from the basic understanding, that GREY + WHITE Contrasts as the "virtual walls of my AW gallery " is not correct and, not only that I can't live with it... I simply feel distant from my ART.
I feel the all area of the portfolio, is TOO BUSY, and not friendly.
During these 4 years here, I got used to several changes , that they made here, and surely, they will make many more in future.
Liked it or not...I always stayed and got used to it..
BUT, This change is TOO DRASTIC, in colour use... I see it as non- correct to view ART, On BUSY surfaces, such is the situation NOW.
As far as I know many artists, don't like this colour combination, that they chose for US...
How many artists at AW site ?...
I think as I see the picture, and I found AW, as professional and wonderful art community on the internet...
But where are they, in consulting US,the artists... especially, when they do such HUGE Change in the LOOK...
really....REALLY !!!...
I sometimes wonder, who is Andy, or his staff - How many members of staff are there.. ?
Can his staff decided for such huge community of artists without any democratic votes... ?
The background was a FREE CHOICE, for years...
Where is the FREE CHOICE Now...Deleted by the system.
Dear Andy, you represent huge community of artists.. Behind my Artist number , there's a very creative , sensitive LOVING soul.. Did you know that ???... I just wonder.
Sometimes dear Andy, you must ask yourself, do you really design the place, to the pleasure of already existing artists of this site... Did you took YOUR TIME, to send an e.mail to me, personally, or a collective mail, with several choices of colour use of background and lay outs..
Did you took the time?
Or simply made it as A FACT, now, that there's no background choice....
If you did it as a FACT, without consulting your BEST MINDS of AW members... Why did you made, such CONTROLLING Backgrounds... it seems SO RIGID.. SO COLD.. so much of HIGH TECH office design.
And so much NOT ME, That it's simply doesn't invite me, to open my own portfolio...
I feel that my own place here, is NOT MINE, This is VERY SAD, to me.
As I said, this new choice may help weak images, to make their show,
but it takes the attention, from the BEST IMAGES, of the site.
With my hopes, with my thoughts... With my LOVE, To SO many people that LOVE me..
I thank ALL those who send me mails to support me, during the last few days...
I LOVE YOU ALL...
Important note : I see the non - payers of the site = {equal } to the paying members of the site.
I don't think NONE of us should be afraid to "speak" and say the real opinion
I'm sure Andy would appreciate your thoughts, even, if you're not a paying member.
I think to be a REAL SUCCESSFUL site, we must be able to have minimum FREEDOM of choice...
Here , living HUGE COMMUNITY of artists together.
Dear Andy... I would appreciate, if you give me, the choice to paint my own walls of my gallery.
Best of LUCK..
Best of UNDERSTANDING
Copyrights to Nira & AW.
P.S: My REAL portraits , that represent the colourful personality, that I am, can be seen down my portfolio.

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16 Comments

jamie winter 22 Jul 2008

I completly agree with you Nira. Things are looking bad here at AW. so sad, makes me not want to load art. jamie and hugs to you my friend

Artist Reply: My dear Jamie, thanks for visiting me here and commenting.. I'm sorry to hear, you feel the same as I do, such a fine artist as yourself. You know we say here : tafasta merube, tafasta me'Uma. = That means, you captured a lot, you captured NONE. When you design something, here for instance a web-site to serve artists... You as the owner of the place should ask yourself.. whom are the users of my site, who is the the target audience ???. WHO ?.. serious artists, or just passing by people, that will come for a short time and move to another place by tomorrow. I don't mind that all kind of people are meeting here, or even the ages of them... I love people. YET, If this is a serious site for artists, that his purpose is to represent artists in best professional way, possible....... They first must consult their artists. As I said... at such drastic change, they should have made several choices to choose, or at least a survey by mail. They learned.. I'm sure the next time, they'll do a change, they will be clever... much more clever. They learned from ME, Nira Dabush... and from so many others, they will remember, what I tried to teach them , in terms of design. And I learned my lesson too.. AW, Is a small place, in a huge internet... and who I am here.. Artist number ... mmnnn.. must I really remember the ID :-)... ?... Love you Jamie !! and all your wonderful loving family and the beautiful talented grandchildren of yours.. My thoughts are with you, I hope Geri your mother is well.

Madeleine Weber 22 Jul 2008

Nira, so sorry that your chosen artroom changed the wall colours. i agree with you that the icons are to dominant and that they fight with the "real art". i think the layout team should listen and will listen to all the layout ideas of the AW artist. There is no way to fullfill everybodies colour wishes but there is a mainway to find a layout which supports the art instead of killing it! Your reactions are very emotional and i don't agree with the way of AW not to get feedback for the layouts. So hopefully they will listen and change the icons (smaller, not so bright) and pic maybe a brighter grey for the background! Other changes i really really like. I hope you will find a solution to deal with it and do find your decision. and of course: a deleted thread is a desaster for the loving flow in AW. so hopefully it won't be repeated.

Artist Reply: Dear Madeleline...Thank you. The minute dear AW will learn to listen and work as a team with his SO MANY members, will be the day , AW will really success. They made revolution here, undoubtedly, if they do so, they had a problem.. And we all know it. So many people left AW.. And they look for a way to bring many others here. it's a BUSINESS ! One thing they forgot, that there are many who still love AW, And not wish to leave the place... It seems they forgot this fact. Here you can see SO MANY Great artists of the site that don't like the way it looks...SO MANY. TRUE... There are those, that understand non of ART, or design that enjoy it. So..they want me quiet now... it's very democratic step, i guess to delete my message from AW boards. I was thinking A LOT, Since this drastic change, I realize many things I wasn't before. I study a lot on this site during the last 4 years here. I'm much more clever now. And I'm sure Andy himself is more clever now. About the top-ten, by the way, which personally I didn't need it.. BUT.. By changing it, as part of this change... Critic, such as mine, or other non - happy artists from the site , simply almost can't be seen.. A CLEAN SITE FOR CRITIC. Just another number of AW... Love, Nira

francis kwok peng kin 22 Jul 2008

The new concept and design might not suit every one, I know how you feel Nira. the overall design with the grey can affect the work on display definitely, certain item in the manage portfolio like edit and delete icons need not be so big. Let hope things will be better and we have to live with 'Change'...

Artist Reply: My dear Francis.. thanks A LOT. Of course, you are one of the most brilliant watercolour painter of this site, you understand me so well, my friend. I hope with you for BETTER TIMES, in AW... My last post at the boards was deleted by them.. it contain, THIS LINK OF AW PEOPLE COMMENTING THIS IMAGE... Do you really think, I must live with it - the change I mean ?... Love you, I hope your daughters are well, as well as your wife, Nira

David Holcombe 21 Jul 2008

The "New Look" commentaries are fascinating. I was a bit taken aback, but I can usually live with changes. I like the way you express your frustration with the black and white motifs, almost like prison photos. Good work despite, and perhaps because of the changes.

Artist Reply: Dear David... The comments show you, which percentage of the people can't live with the changes well, and as long as these changes exist , we are forced to do so. I posted this not in the BEST hour for rating, from personal reasons... if I posted it in that morning, there would be here much more comments... but I could not. With part of the changes, also I dislike them, I can live too. YET, As you & Andy + his staff could understood.. With this colour choice of difference of backgrounds - I CAN'T ! It seems to me the base, while I see many images each day.. and especially, at my own gallery, which is FULL With so many different images. I very much love SO MANY PEOPLE, here.. And I truly would like to continue posting here, in AW. yet, the backgrounds choice, is more then disturbing to me, IN ALL WAYS, I explained here, or at AW thread. If, I'll post, Andy now knows, that each post, is with a PROTEST of myself INSIDE ME. This ALL Situation, let me think, more about things, I didn't before.. and I realize several things, that I didn't before the changes. I also thought to myself.. perhaps I'll post here only images, that is suitable to their "new look " - Not sure of this.. but its possibility. I may split the images, I post... in another way... at these terms. I must be clever to MYSELF, now that I understood AW can do what they wish, when they wish, AT ANY TIME, And not in democratic way, unfortunately, living in 2008 - INTERNET. NOT SURE, What I'll do.. but I thought about it A LOT, I learned, that the method here is not correct, as it was before. I hope Andy is clever enough, to correct his main mistakes, and pleased HIS PEOPLE. Or, perhaps he prefers, all the time moving people from AW, and entering new ones. TIME WILL TELL, THE WHOLE STORY, to me... to you, and other people. YES... I feel the structure made by the new design of backgrounds as prison to me, without the ability to DELETE colour choice, I can't live relaxed & peaceful with.... This is VERY SAD, to me, David. I still hope to smile, while the background problem is totally SOLVED. Wise person, is the one, when admit, made a MISTAKE, Can correct, as fast as this person can. My love to the people of AW, Including Andy & people of the staff, who works to please us. kind regards, SHALOM, nira.

geoff cooper 21 Jul 2008

I dont think there was any need to change anything, it was ok before... I am so sorry you are so unhappy about it all dear Nira.. I send you a big hug hoping it might help.. Geoff.

Artist Reply: Dear Geoff... For me personally the site also , used to work perfectly to most of my everyday usual exceptions. BUT.......... !! I can very well understand their need to renew the site, and freshen it... Yet, not in this way.. BUT With, consulting the living spirits of the site - us the artists, about major changes, such as the " LOOK ". Free choice of background , that was here for years, should stay, FREE CHOICE. If not They had to arrange several colour choices, that people can choose, the suitable colours for their eYeS. survey , by mail + vote. Your hug definitely make me SMILE, Geoff,and I'll ask.. :-) Will your hug bring a better solution for background ? HUGS Back... dash { say hello } to Lucinda... Nira.

Olga van Dijk 21 Jul 2008

Though gray is a neutral, balanced color it's a cool and conservative color at the same time, that seldom evokes strong emotion although it can be seen as a cloudy or moody color. I'm so sorry about your sadness and we miss your sunny disposition on AW.... I AGREE: Artists should have choices, even more if you PAY for them... (There's not much difference between a non-paying member and a premium member anymore.)In HOLLAND -the country I come from- everything is colorful, because we HATE gray and dark.... The only think I love is that the #10 is gone... but that's it... I agree with all comments made here! -- Love and LOTS of LIGHT for you dear Nira, OLGA

Artist Reply: My dear Olga... I see the Grey, as very moody, YES. I'm glad to know you agree with ALL Comments made here... YET, Sorry that this is still the situation, and I wonder, what does AW staff meant by " VERY NEAREST FUTURE "... How long more shall we have to suffer this RIGID colour choice. More then the Grey.. The Big issue, as I sEE it, is the HUGE Contrasts of White - Grey + our image. It's like 2 images competing + ALL these huge buttons.. The surface, is TOO BUSY, To view ART, And alot of art, in these conditions, of colour and shapes atmosphere. When I talked about payers non- payers.. it was the personal opinion of ALL of us, that are equal artists activists of the site. YES.. I'm happy that the TOP TEN is OFF.. It reflected non of the TALENT, at this site. Many HUGE TALENTS , Were never seen on it. It was exposure to those, that were more active in comments, usually, to my opinion. love & light to ALL Visitors of AW Site. THANKS, Nira.

thea walstra 21 Jul 2008

Very well spoken Nira!

Artist Reply: My dear Thea... thanks a lot for the comments.. Since I join AW, my ability in written texts improved, no doubt ;-))... Yet.. I should REALLY work on the REAL SPOKEN English :-) AND hearing English. Kind regards... Shalom, Nira

Izabella Pavlushko 21 Jul 2008

Hello dear Nira. I understand your confusion VERY WELL. I felt some shock too when I saw these changes for the first time For me AW was always the main artistic place on internet. But since last changes I have not wishes to post my art here. I could reconcile myself with grey and white background but what doesn’t suit me is blue arrows placed on the left and right from my paintings. As you know the underground of my art is white These arrows distract attention from the art, they look very active and cumbersome and those who don’t know my art yet can think that they are the part of my paintings. Hope AW takes into consideration our disapprovals and corrects them.

Artist Reply: My darling , Izabella. The combination of Grey + White, might be suitable only for few artists, as I see it... YES, it could be ok for FEW geometric abstracts, I can agree on this. Yet... to very NARROW market segment of AW.. Definitely not TO ALL KINDS OF ART. Also, I felt the same and still feel this way, that I don't wish to post my ART, in these conditions of controlling POWERFUL, And difficult to watch - White + Grey, as BACKGROUNDS. About the Blue arrows and other submit buttons and illustration, it should have been smaller, for sure. Personally, I love the Blue buttons in colour, yet.. I know you are RIGHT, it does not go well with your ART. For me for instance , the "traffic signs" does not help, but I look for the written words...search actually for the written words such as delete, or reply. I would prefer, at least , if they put these illustration, that they'll make at least, an option: before delete a comment, a "window" should open and ask me :" are you sure you wish to delete this comment " This will be improvement for me, instead of " traffic illustrations ". Because, I deleted by mistake a comment already, and it happened to me few times in the past too. Undoubtely, if AW, wish to be a successful site, a family ART - Site, as it was... They must work with US, artists.. not only with themselves : ANDY + STAFF... Love you, Izabella... With my HOPES for LIGHT in AW, Nira. P.S : Dash to your Ronit.

Steve Farr 20 Jul 2008

Hey Nira!! I am in total agreement with you , my friend!! I know change is sometimes good and it may take awhile to get used to it, but I totally agree that this was too drastic!! I have been a member here since the beginning of '06', met a lot of great artists and friends such as yourself, and I really liked AW's format better than most art sites, but I'm now feeling a little betrayed, especially since I just renewed my premium membership, just days before the "big change'!! I think all us artist should do a piece titled "Where were you on July 15, 2008: The day AW died!!" Much Luv, Nira!!~S

Artist Reply: LOVE YOU STEVE........!! I HOPE THAT DEAR ANDY IS READING YOU.. I MUST FINISH A PAINTING NOW.. I may reply you better later...NIRA !! ~~!!

Mrs.David Jobes(Dee) Jobes 20 Jul 2008

Dear Nira,Soooooooo Sorry to see You feeling so upset...Our thoughts and prayers are with You,Dear Friend...((((((((Hugs)))))))))),Dee&David

Artist Reply: Dearest Dee... Thank you. My thoughts and prayers are for you & David... {{{ hugs }}} Nira

Loredana 20 Jul 2008

DEAR NIRA THIS IS SAD TO SEE HOW UPSET YOU ARE OVER THE NEW AW !! AS YOU KNOW I HAVE NOT BEEN ON AW FOR A LONG TIME, BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO DO WHATEVER THEY PLEASE AND WHEN THEY PLEASE , NO MATTER IF ITS RIGHT OR WRONG , THERE IS NO CONCERN FOR THE ARTISTS ON HERE PAYING OR NOT, OR HOW LONG YOU HAVE BEEN A MEMBER...i AGREE THERE SHOULD BE CHOICES FOR THE ARTIST COMMUNITY OF AW BECAUSE WITH OUT THEM THERE WOULD BE NO AW !!!

Artist Reply: My dear Laura... I think that at artists site, MUST Have choices... especially in the colour choices, and lay out. ... The concern must be FOR THE SAKE OF THE ARTIST, first. They supposed to represent artist's needs... Do they, I wonder... {?}... And,if they still didn't understand basic needs of an artist, they have a problem, but we also have a problem with this fact. Just look how many people seems to not like the Grey colour... they made HUGE CHANGE in colour... a table / plate of colour should have been sent by mail to each of us, with option to choose , by checked a square or something like that... You know to make a survey / exploration of the situation and taste of artist. DID THEY ?... Did they even thought to take this into their considerations ?... Who were the people, who chose for huge community of artists the colours ?... WHO.. ?.. Thanks for being my friend during the years... Nira.

Susan Rodio 20 Jul 2008

Hi Nira, I just read your post and when I saw the new AW look I just kind of accepted it, I did think however that it was a strange choice of colour 'grey'? I agree it would have been better if they gave us a choice of at least a few selections. For me AW is also the main place I show my work but I also have my own site and other online galleries too. I understand why you feel this way, sorry that it has got you down. I hope not too much. Hope you and your family are well. :)

Artist Reply: Hi Susan, thank you for visiting me, my dear. Undoubtedly they have to give us, few selections.. If not, I would prefer ONE CLEAN, CLEAR , AND CLEVER WHITE Surface... or with very soft almost not seen background { even with very soft degredatsia to White} . You know... FRIENDLY.. That I will not see all the time the contrasts of background, to make my eyes tired, or search for "THE IMAGE" I comment. As it was , was VERY FINE, here, for presentation of art. They made HUGE Change, but at least, the base, of background - should be ours.. or as we said, a selection from several options. All is WELL with my family. Summer vacation here. Hot weather... kind regards, Shalom, NIRA :-)

Reba McDonald 20 Jul 2008

Never did like grey.

Artist Reply: My dearest Reba... You, such a FINE artist yourself, that is so active in supporting in comments so many other artists of AW site, in this condition, must try to "get used " to a colour, you don't like. what I tried to explained to AW, is much more of only the Grey.. it's the combination of : Grey - White. This combination maybe can be good for other things, but it's TOTALLY NOT CORRECT, as the surface to introduce our ART, to the world... and especially ,NOT ON EVERYDAY BASE - Which is important also. The surface must be simple, not complex... especially, that there are artists , such as myself, who make complex ART... And, my art need AIR... AND not being part of another complex geometrical design. The background, has to help the work, not compete with it. More about the colour Grey can be read here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray I think if they also consult with Pang Shwaist { sorry I do not know to write it in English } .. they would understand that the surface is TOO BUSY. Love you, Reba.. perhaps you'll suddenly begin to enjoy the Grey nowadays. THANK YOU!

Nelly van Nieuwenhuijzen 20 Jul 2008

I can understand you so very well my dearest Nirasje. love you. and when I said I'm from Europe, it is because I'm proud of this. Different worlds in some ways, and different tastes... for me the contrasts are too big, the grey and the white. It is accenting the design, the design is ruling here, too dominating. Not elegant and not artistic.l

Artist Reply: Dear Nellushka . Of course, you must be proud of your country, and the great MASTERS, That came from Holland and effected the whole history of ART. Of course, I'm proud of you as such a FINE ARTIST... a very loving person and active artist in this community. And.. it's true, we both think the same about this HUGE CONTRASTS , Which dominate our ART. Dash ( = say hello to :-) your son, Leendert, from ME... Love you, Good night, NIRA.

Anneke Hut 20 Jul 2008

I'm sorry that it makes you so sad, Nira. You're always so happy and are inspiring us with it. I hope Andy will soon give you the chance again to realise your own background and that we will see you're laughing again! Hugs to you! :)

Artist Reply: Anneke... I'm sure I inspire happiness with Andy too, from time to time, when he has the time, to view my ART. My hopes are similar to yours, my friend.. Hugs, Nira.

Sharon Gonzalez 20 Jul 2008

IT'S REALLY TOO BAD THAT AW HAD TO TOTALLY CHANGE A GREAT THING; I SO AGREE, DEAR NIRA. IF YOU READ THE MESSAGE BOARDS, I HAVE ISSUES TOO. I FIND THAT I AM SPENDING AS MUCH TIME WRITING THERE AS ANYWHERE ELSE ON AW TRYING TO GET THINGS CORRECTED. BRAVO TO YOU FOR STANDING UP FOR YOUR INNER SOUL AND WHAT YOU BELIEVE AND FEEL. BRAVO, DEAR NIRA. PS I MISS YOU.

Artist Reply: Dear Sharon.. At least admit it, they SO Much improve the fonts, since the 15 :-)... So.. not all time lost at the boards.. I can't understand how they thought such fonts could be successful. I guess AW stuff eye condition is better then 6:6.. they sEE Better then the average artist. I would suggest you'll join me now for a walk in my town, before it getting dark, instead of endless writing at the boards.. With my hopes for A LIGHT, In AW site.. love you, see u later, NIRA.

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