Pete Miller 27 Jan 2005

I am inclined to agree...looking closely you can see where your signature wasnt completely erased.......thats just plain wrong...

Pete Miller 27 Jan 2005

the real signature

Pete Miller 27 Jan 2005

the other one

Pete Miller 27 Jan 2005

real

Pete Miller 27 Jan 2005

the other

Pete Miller 27 Jan 2005

see how you can still see remnants of the signature in the second one?

eileen martin 27 Jan 2005

i checked that out and noticed that too Pete, looks like photoshop clone tool was used(not very well), cause they took a little of the leaf too.

Patrick Miller 27 Jan 2005

How freakin pathetic can you get....

Vincent Tylor 27 Jan 2005

I am dealing with Richard directly at the moment. I will post an update shortly. I have given him 24 hours to remove and offer an apology. The fact he is selling it is what bothers me the most. Many people *borrow* images so to speak for web blogs, notecards etc. Making a profit however is another story altogether.

This image was also contracted with Webshots for a fee as well as royalties for three years. It is among the top 100 best sellers and has been there for well over a year. It was taken three years ago on Kauai. In fact the same plant is still there. Here is the Webshots best sellers page link.

http://www.webshots.com/g/tr/pp-pp_4.html

Lucas Seven 27 Jan 2005

...LYNCH MOB TIME...

Juan Gomez 27 Jan 2005

WOW people are incredible..can't wait for the up-date..SHAME SHAME!!

Vincent Tylor 27 Jan 2005

http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?include=all&photo_id=2050885

This is another page of most of my recent work. The image in question is right there as well. Appreciate your support. It baffles me why ARTWANTED has yet to delete the image. Nor have they yet to replied to my e-mails. I guess giving him the benefit of doubt...

ArtWanted.com Staff 27 Jan 2005

Whenever something like this pops up, where both artists claim it's their own work, we can't hit the delete button too quickly. A quick decision, could be the wrong one. We have to look at all the issues and hear both sides. We have received your request and are looking into the matter and it should be worked out with 24 hours.

Vincent Tylor 27 Jan 2005

I am stepping out for a few hours, when I return I will offer conclusive evidence. I understand your position. Although SOME type of e-mail reply from you would have been nice to see.

Melissa Bond 27 Jan 2005

It shouldn't be too hard to realize that this is copyright infringement. The majority of his photographs are from other photographers just Photoshoped to death. It's still copyright infringement to take someone else's work no matter how many filters you add to it. A tribute with due credit...fine. But to claim as your own and try to even sell it...disrespectful.

Many of the patriotic images are from AP and Reuters that I recognized immediately.

I am positive that AW will do right with this. I would make sure he hasn't sold any as well. It's numbing to see theft such as this, it's sickening to see an attempt to profit from it. I hope all goes well in your favor and I hope he hasn't profited from any of the images he is selling as his entire portfolio should be questioned.

Justin Jenkins 27 Jan 2005

Unbelievable......Hope this is resolved for you Vincent. .

Pete Miller 28 Jan 2005

kinda makes you wonder about the rest of the stuff in the portfolio doesnt it....

Vincent Tylor 28 Jan 2005

Vincent Tylor 28 Jan 2005

While I respect the fact this website must examine the evidence before making a decison, in this case it really is a no brainer and already gone on too long in my opinion. For the record, here is my list of evidence that this image belongs to me.

1) This image has been posted publicly for a much longer time period in my case than it has with this photographer on this site. Webshots, Photo.net, my own website, and in our own print line. Over a year and a half ago on Webshots and two years in our print line.

2) If I have stolen an image from any other photographer, I certainly would not post it in these other very public locations. (Webshots is listed in the top 100 websites in the world in terms of number of visitors). I also would certainly NOT come to this site accusing this photographer of taking my image, if indeed the opposite were true. I would in fact hide from him.

3)Look at the *other* Bird of Paradise images from him, they look nothing like this one in question. He had the gumption to ask if I want to claim those as well. Sarcastic little sucker.

4)The image that HE posted on this site, has remnants of MY signature still on it. How do you suppose that happened?? How could it possibly get there if HE posted it on this site? The answer is simple, he downloaded my image and did a very poor job trying to clone it out..as is clearly stated above as well as in my personal e-mails to this website. (It also has the exact same gray border from my website).

5)We sell this as a 24x36 Lightjet print from a 222 megabyte file. You better have the original to get one that large, guys.

6) And finally, here is a digital image of my actual original on the lightbox. Let's see his.

There are all sorts of people using my images on their own personal sites for personal decoration etc. I usually just let them stay up there and dont really bother. can't do that much with a little ole j-peg, can you? This situation is very different. YOUR photographer has claimed HE actually took this image, and even has the nerve to sell it publicly. (If sales transactions have gone through, then I also need to know the details of those). In addition, he has privately accused me of stealing this from him, and threatened legal action because of this. These e-mails were all sent to management here as well. I very kindly have given this person 24 hours to remove the image and offer an apology, which is a heck of a lot more than I certainly need to do here. This is clearly an abuse of the system and if this website does anything less than remove that image as well as ban this member, then you guys have some serious problems on your hands. And I'm not talking about the fraud with this one particular photographer either. I rest my case.

stan jones 28 Jan 2005

good luck to you Vincent

makes one really wonder whats going on