30 Apr 2011

Mary Adams 30 Apr 2011

I agree one hundred percent. I only know what I like and I like a variety of art of any kind whether it is in painting,drawing,photography,or music true art is in the mind and talent of the dreamer. You have to believe in yourself and your talent and with a whole lot of faith and luck you can go far.

Leo Da's Artistic Promotions 30 Apr 2011

those who can....do..

those who can not....teach...

those who can not teach....critique....

Alexandra Sloan 30 Apr 2011

Well for me a good critique can come from anyone no matter their skill level. I like to ask all kinds of people what they think of my work because I get different points of views. My father for example has no idea how to draw or paint, but he is a very hard man to please when it comes to art so I know he'll tell me exactly what he thinks. If you ask someone who knows a lot they can tell you more technical stuff, about composition, light, color, movement and so forth and in the end that may be a more valuable and helpful critique, but you don't have to be a master artist to tell someone if their composition is good or bad. When I critique I like to think of one positive and one negative thing about the piece so I can balance it out. If it's a work in progress I like to give them ideas or pointers. I think it's important to never get mad if people don't take your suggestions because you have to remember you may not take other suggestions as well. Also if you don't believe someones art is as good as yours think again. They may have a disability you don't know about, or they may know technical things but not be able to draw as well so their opinions and critiques can be just as valuable as a master's. Thats all I have to say, srry it was so long. ^_^

Leo Da's Artistic Promotions 30 Apr 2011

The irony is that this forum is set aside for critiques yet this thread fall well within the art forum format: therefore, my only critique is that your prose is paradoxal and therefore is subjected for criticism. LOL!

Linda Carol Nelson 30 Apr 2011

And so we expose ---- what exactly?

People who write about art, that is visual art, are not necessarily visual artists. They may be writers.

Alexandra Sloan 30 Apr 2011

She just put this in the wrong section thats all. It's not the end of the world.

01 May 2011

Leo Da's Artistic Promotions 01 May 2011

Thanks for setting the record straight.... I was lost... wondering in the wilderness.......once apond a time there was a.....

oh yea! Orson Scott Card has written a lot of cool books involving few in judment of the masses.......or is his name Scott Orson Card???? Darn just can't remember....

01 May 2011

Linda Carol Nelson 01 May 2011

Ok just spit it out Leo, straight.

Leo Da's Artistic Promotions 01 May 2011

Linda, anonymous judgement is meaningless. the judges are not subjected to any justification. they may be true donkey holes and can be so without scorn. Contest, shows or any artistic competition always involve some degree of politics. subjectivity is alway relivant when logic is secondary.

Linda Carol Nelson 01 May 2011

Thanks, Leo.

Leo Da's Artistic Promotions 01 May 2011

Yes Linda, you are welcome and its been a while..so long that the new blood don't recognize a little jest.......to take one self so serious will.....well...what can one say? I know....HEhehehehe;)

Linda Carol Nelson 02 May 2011

Yes, it was a little fun, for old times...:)

Linda Eades Blackburn 02 May 2011

"those who can....do..

those who can not....teach...

those who can not teach....critique.... "

Yes...I do love this and is is so often true. Thankfully not always though. I have known some very talented artists who both teach and critique, unfortunately so many just don't have the time to do so or just don't care to spend what free time they might have in such a way.

I don't believe that anonymous judging should be legal....... off to jail with them!

Marty Yokawonis 03 May 2011

I was in a juried show recently in a recognized Art Center in my area. The juror was an "international watercolorist, author and workshop instructor." She gave out the awards and then offered to critique each of the 42 works on display.

I was polite and stood next to my work so as to go along with the organizer's intentions but I have to say that her remarks about the art were not helpful although the were pointedly critical. In my opinion she was missing the point entirely and only focusing on what she felt were the failures in each of the pieces.

Each of the artists had a unique vision and something valuable to share with viewers. Judging a work solely on whether it could have been cropped differently or if it had too many hard edges was a lot like saying the day would be perfect if the sun didn't shine so bright or the sky wasn't quite so blue or the grass was just too green. We had been juried into the show based on the merits of the works. Why was it necessary to demean 37 out of 42 works with nitpicking comments? To justify why she gave awards to 5 pieces?

Becoming successful at peddling one's wares is not a good measuring stick for critical analysis. Kindness and a sincere desire to help someone else succeed are the marks of a true mentor. In my opinion if someone wants to judge other's work they need to be encouraging above all else.

03 May 2011

Ann 03 May 2011

A critique is just one person's observation and we have to remember that we all see things differently. We might have our reasons why we don't agree with what a critic is saying.

I think giving just tender and loving comments don't help an artist see and change any flaws that would improve the artwork.

A critic shouldn't have to tip toe around, but should at least walk with softer slippers, especially gentle when dealing with beginners or the younger crowd. A harsh critique can totally destroy a creative mind.

Being honest and pointing out flaws is one thing, but it can and should be done kindly. Even if you have to really search for something positive in a work, that should be included in a critique IMO.

Marty, that critic had a lot of works to comment on, and maybe the time factor only allowed her to point out what she thought were flaws. Perhaps if she'd had more time, she would have been able to say what she liked about the artwork also... Ann

03 May 2011