old way living ..i sort try diffent ways doing art iff works ok iff not ,, lean as i go and .lean by my mystakes ,,i sort used whtch same the older people out on the cattle stations maney years ago panting ,, and i have lot there art hear as colltion ,,same over 30+ years old i upload them same day .. heard same ,, made ok over seas selling now days ..was bit odd for i lived all most my life on the land in cattle staions so then 5 years in the navy ,, then back to the land .. like trying do art and ,, its just hobbie for i .. with so much to lean as i go ..